Saturday, 4 October 2014

[Maine-birds] Re: bear referendum

I feel it necessary to clarify— Before anyone dismisses “both sides” in the debate, take a look at the science page of the yes on 1 campaign (http://fairbearhunt.com/science) and note that well-known author, biologist, and hunter Bernd Heinrich is, among others, on their advisory council.    He also appears in a commercial for the campaign.  Also on that page is a science report in which any claims are referenced to published, peer reviewed studies. I have not seen anything like that by the IF&W folks, or the no on 1 campaign and I have looked.  Last, one warden appears in a commercial and seems to claim that he won’t be able to protect the public from bears anymore if the initiative passes when in reality the department will still have all methods of control open to them. This indicates to me that they are not using science to sway the public, but instead are trying to scare them i to voting “no." The proposed language can be found on the yes on 1 campaign website and also on the state’s website.

Best,

Leda Beth
Blue Hill

 
On Oct 4, 2014, at 4:50 PM, maine-birds@googlegroups.com wrote:

Judith & Reid Scher <rscher34@yahoo.com>: Oct 04 12:20AM

This is completely off-topic and will be shot down quickly and appropriately, (so I apologize to the moderator up front and will not repeat the infraction), but before that happens I will voice my skepticism for the supposed "experts" in the state wildlife dept.  To argue that feeding bears human food and thereby habituating them to associating humans with food as appropriate wildlife management doesn't even pass the straight face test.  Anyone who has traveled to any wildlife area knows that the No. 1 Rule is DO NOT FEED the wildlife. It results in more aggressive bears not less. Arguing the contrary is purely in service of for-profit hunting clubs who sell cheap shots to lazy "sportsmen."  Feeding bears does increase the population.  Trapping and permitting dogs to terrorize and attack bears, also putting the dogs at risk, is inhumane.   The IF&W's agenda is showing, folks - pro-hunting of any kind at any cost, not pro wildlife or even sportsmanship.  I'm sure that the referendum will not pass this time, but the days of these horrific practices are numbered.Judy Scher
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This is a broader nature question we should be concerned about, maybe not on a birder list.
OK, so, where to get unbiased education? Is there a site discussing this? Three states report that baiting bears increases population? I have been stymied on this subject. ~~~
 
Barbara Partridge Herrgesell
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This is indeed off-topic for the group, but you asked and I will reply: The Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife is tasked with managing the state's game and non-game wildlife resources. I am a conservation-minded hunter and birder, and I have a huge amount of respect for the knowledge, experience and field work of the Department's biologists. I am not a biologist. I do, however, choose to place my confidence and November vote on the work of these individuals. If they tell me that a species management practice is necessary to maintain a population of healthy animals while limiting conflict with humans, I tend to believe them. As far as the ethics behind bear hunting, this could be debated to no end without a consensus being achieved. I personally think that in most cases, a hunt is "fair chase" when the animal is wild and unrestricted in its ability to try to evade the chosen legal hunting method being utilized (think game farms; not "fair chase"). I have shot deer and turkey. Never bear, but I will likely be setting up a bait within the next few years if that hunting method is not voted out. I do not hunt for the kill; pulling the trigger is a small part of the larger picture. I would much rather use a shotgun or rifle to obtain meat than a debit card. In closing, vote however you see fit. Just please be well-educated on the issue and make your decision based on science and research.With respect,William NicholsStockton Springs
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Bruce Bartrug <bbartrug@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Since there are a number of naturalists that work for various environmental or state organizations that frequent this forum, I hope it's not impertinent of me to ask opinions on the bear-baiting referendum we'll be voting on in November.  My gut feeling is to leave this to the wildlife people, who (hopefully at least) know their area of expertise.  Sure, baiting is "unfair,"  but so is putting a worm on a hook.  Any input would be appreciated, and thanks in advance.
BAB
 
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Kali Bird Isis <abrushwithfire@gmail.com>: Oct 03 09:26PM -0400

Thanks, Judy. I for one, appreciate that.
http://www.pressherald.com/2014/10/03/bill-nemitz-whats-scary-state-officials-in-tv-spots-not-the-bears/
 
Kali
 
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Fyn Kynd <fynkynd@gmail.com>: Oct 04 10:11AM -0700

Well said, Judy, I agree.
 
Cheers,
Fyn
 
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Joe Scott <joescottbsn@hotmail.com>: Oct 04 12:49PM -0400

McNeil Road in Fryeburg Harbor is alive with sparrows right now. This morning one shrub produced Lincoln's sparrow, White-crowned (adult and juvie), White-throated, Swamp, Song and Savannah. Oh, and two warbler species and a catbird. In the field beyond was a northern harrier, and 200 yards away was a kestrel on the line. There have been 70-80 pipits on the sod fields. Yesterday there were 6 sandhill cranes, which reportedly have been around for over a week. They weren't there this morning but it's worth checking again.
Love this migration...
Joe ScottChatham, NH
Bill Bunn <moosetrunks51@gmail.com>: Oct 04 09:02AM -0700

Feeding with a few song sparrows along the path to the right of the
observation area, was still present at 9:30, with the damp weather will
probably be there all day
RALPH ELDRIDGE <lightrae1@gmail.com>: Oct 04 08:00AM -0700

Throughout Wednesday, Thursday and into Friday mid-day there were raptors
continually cruising the island, especially HARRIERS & PEREGRINES. But
there were also plenty of MERLINS, occasional KESTRELS & EAGLES and lots of
chasing and conflicts. The prey species had hardly a moment of rest but
faired remarkably well, in spite of attacks from multiple directions.
I had several close encounters, especially with Peregrines. Having a falcon
come in at eye level and full speed and pass within a metre of your head
does give one an greater appreciation of the prey's world.
 
By late Friday afternoon the raptors were either gone or inactive and the
FLICKERS and such got some feeding time. At dusk I saw 2 Peregrines and 1
Harrier that looked ready to spend the night.
 
Contrary to my expectations, there seemed to be little movement overnight.
That, plus the drizzle & rain today have produced a rather quiet day around
here.
Well ....... maybe "quiet" is the wrong word.
A contingent of approximately 50 BLUE JAYS arrived a couple hours ago. Jays
are regular here but flocks are exceptional. These are voicing their
feelings about having a HARRIER near by.
 
I've also seen up to 6 KESTRELS at a time and they are "talking" a lot and
perching 2 or 3 at a time atop the lighthouse and our chimneys. Now and
then there's one on our doorstep railing.
 
A couple PEREGRINES over-nighted but appear to have departed early this
morning.
 
New this morning, a single CANADA GOOSE feeding on the lawn.
I've been seeing pairs and similiar small groups over the last several
days, all apparently migrating.
 
Also apparently migrating daily since mid-week, several flocks of
CORMORANTS with 40-100+.

Several large DRAGON FLIES (species unknown) seen every day;
1 to 4 MONARCH BUTTERFLY sightings daily right up to today. I suspect it
might be resights of one individual the last 4 days.
Sharon F. <sfinley111@hotmail.com>: Oct 04 10:42AM -0400

Judith-Thanks for articulating what I've been trying to work out for myself...Sharon F. in West K.
<wtownsend@roadrunner.com>: Oct 04 09:16AM -0400

10/3/2014
Had a single adult puffin fly by the boat this afternoon. It landed in the tidal currents off the SW end of Ironbound Island in Frenchman Bay. Quite unusual to see one both this far into the bay and at this time of year although single birds have been seen in the vicinity other years.
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Linda <lds@maine.rr.com>: Oct 03 06:34PM -0400

I am looking at two on the river side of the bridge right now.
 
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Derek and Jeannette Lovitch <freeportwildbird@yahoo.com>: Oct 03 02:40PM -0700

Hi all,
 
Just a few additional sightings of note over the past few, post-Monhegan days:
 
- 2 Hudsonian Godwits, The Pool, Biddeford Pool, 9/30 (with client).
- 4 continuing (2 ad with 2 juv) AMERICAN OYSTERCATCHERS, Hill's Beach, Biddeford, 9/30 (with client).
- 24 Red-winged Blackbirds, Capisic Pond Park, Portland, 9/30 (with client).
- 1 ORANGE-CROWNED WARBLER (FOY), Hidden Pond Preserve, Freeport, 10/2.
 
- lots of Song and Swamp Sparrows arrived in Portland parks for the morning of 10/3.
- scattered Pine Siskins in local patches.
 
-Derek
 
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