Tuesday, 18 May 2021

Re: [Maine-birds] Southern birds

Bob is good and gets just about full credit. The DC Cormorant was the
one likely here "always."

The Evening Grosbeak was a western North America bird only coming far
east in the 1890s.

The Brown-headed Cowbird as Bob says was a plains bird but the plains
extended to Ohio and western NY and Penn. I do not know when the Cowbird
first became established in Maine but likely 1790 to 1830 something like
that.

The Glossy Ibis is my favorite and a bit confusing. It was native to
North Africa / Mediterranean area and, like the Cattle Egret, with
favorable winds reached South America and / or the West Indies in the
early-1800s (Cattle Egret was 1880s in South America). There are
specimen records from NY, etc. in the 1850s then they disappeared
returning to first nest in Florida about 1940 and since have expanded north.

The Mourning Dove was / is a southern bird ... read Knight's Birds of
Maine and he literally lists every sighting up to 1909 (more or less).

As for Wally's Bobolink and Meadowlark, I do believe they were "always"
here but surely in less numbers in the colonial period.


On 5/18/2021 3:31 PM, duchesne@midmaine.com wrote:
> I'll go out on a limb, without research, to say that none of them were
> present. For instance, evening grosbeak was first discovered in the
> Pacific Northwest. Brown-headed cowbirds evolved to follow buffalo herds.
> I still think of glossy ibis as a southern wader, unfairly, I admit. (And
> don't get me started on white-faced ibis.) Mourning doves probably moved
> in after settlers cleared forest. Maine is sufficiently at the northern
> end of their range that we're still one of the few states that doesn't
> have a hunting season on them - the most hunted gamebird in America,
> believe it or not.
>
> OK, I think dc cormorants were probably here, but I don't know
> specifically about Maine.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd bet that Meadowlarks and Bobolinks weren't here in the 1700's,
>> because the State was mostly forested. And now, Meadowlarks have become
>> scarce--a mystery, since Bobolinks are still common in the places where I
>> used to find Meadowlarks.
>>
>> As to your question, I have no idea, but I suspect that Mourning Dove was
>> not present.
>>
>> Wally S.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:29:35 -0400, Stan DeOrsey <jsmd@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Which of the following species have more or less "always" been in Maine
>> from Colonial days (say 1700s) to now? For extra credit, any which were
>> not in Maine in the 1700s, where were they in the 1700s?
>>
>> Glossy Ibis
>> Double-crested Cormorant
>> Mourning Dove
>> Evening Grosbeak
>> Brown-headed Cowbird
>>
>> On 5/18/2021 12:55 PM, chrwsu@myfairpoint.net wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't say "ouch." I'd say, "hurrah!"
>>
>> Bird populations have never been static. Enjoy the diversity.
>>
>> Keep your eyes peeled for California Condors. 😉
>>
>> Wally S.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 11:28:12 -0400, duchesne@midmaine.com wrote:
>>
>> I'm just saying it was a little freaky this morning on Kittridge Road in
>> Bangor. As I stood next to the old landfill, prior to entering Bangor City
>> Forest, I heard simultaneously northern cardinal, tufted titmouse,
>> red-bellied woodpecker, and Carolina wren. It sounded more like Maryland
>> than Maine. Ouch.
>>
>> Bob Duchesne
>>
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